Click here for full size image. Carroll This Little Book is sent forth for the purpose of making known the little-known history of those faithful witnesses of the Lord Jesus, who, as members of the church Jesus Built, "Overcame Satan by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony: Tell them about the wonderful facts of history brought out in this book. Urge them to order it. Carroll, the author of this book, was born in the state of Arkansas, January 8, , and died in Texas, January 10, His father, a Baptist preacher, moved to Texas when Brother Carroll was six years old.
There he was converted, baptized, and ordained to the Gospel ministry. Carroll not only became a leader among Texas Baptist, but an outstanding figure of Southern Baptists, and of the world. Years ago he came to our church and brought the messages found in this book. It was then I became greatly interested in Brother Carroll's studies. I, too, had made a special research in Church History, as to which is the oldest Church and most like the churches of the New Testament.
Porter attended the lectures. He was so impressed he told Brother Carroll if he would write the messages he would publish them in a book. Carroll wrote the lectures and gave Dr.
Fallout 4: Follow the Trail of Blood - The Arrival
Porter the right to publish them along with the chart which illustrates the history so vividly. Carroll died before the book came off the press, but Dr. Porter placed them before the public and the whole edition was soon sold. Now, by the grace of God, we are able to present this 66th edition of 20, I want to ask all who read and study these pages to join me in prayer and work that an ever-increasing number shall go forth.
It was wonderful to hear Dr. He wrote the book after he was 70 years old, but he said, "I was converted unto God when I was just a boy. I saw the many denominations and wondered which was the church the Lord Jesus founded. Even in his youth he felt that in the study of the Scriptures and history, he could find the church which was the oldest and most like the churches described in the New Testament.
This research for the truth led him into many places and enabled him to gather one of the greatest libraries on church history. This library was given at his death to the Southwestern Baptist Seminary, Ft.
The history of Baptists, he discovered, was written in blood. They were the hated people of the Dark Ages. Their preachers and people were put into prison and untold numbers were put to death. The world has never seen anything to compare with the suffering, the persecutions, heaped upon Baptists by the Catholic Hierarchy during the Dark Ages. The Pope was the world's dictator. Their history is written in the legal documents and papers of those ages. At Vienna many Ana-Baptists were tied together in chains that one drew the other after him into the river, wherein they were all suffocated drowned.
Henry II ordered them to be branded on the forehead with hot irons, publicly whipped them through the streets of the city, to have their garments cut short at the girdles, and be turned into the open country. The villages were not to offer them any shelter or food and they perished a lingering death from cold and hunger. The old Chronicler Stowe, A.
Fourteen of them were condemned; a man and a woman were burned at Smithfield, the other twelve of them were sent to towns there to be burned. Scarcely the facts seem worth mentioning. For them no Europe was agitated, no court was ordered in mourning, no papal hearts trembled with indignation. At their death the world looked on complacent, indifferent or exulting. Yet here, out of 25 poor men and women were found 14, who by no terror of stake or torture could be tempted to say they believed what they did not believe.
History has for them no word of praise, yet they, too, were not giving their blood in vain. Their lives might have been as useless as the lives of most of us. In their death they assisted to pay the purchase of English freedom. Carroll found, their history and that their trail through the ages was indeed bloody: The "twelve hundred years" were the years preceding the Reformation in which Rome persecuted Baptists with the most cruel persecution thinkable.
Indeed this seems to have been their leading principle from the time of Tertullian to the present time. Your pointing someone to the Second London Confession of Faith is like me telling someone to find the Baptist confession of faith today. It would be impossible as Baptists may hold to many doctrines the same, but in other areas we know there are differences. I assume the reason Carroll did not produce any explanation or defense for the groups he mentions was because many Baptists believed as he did, and had the same types of sources he had access to, by and large.
However, in the light of what you have said, I will have to gain access to the books I once had my fingers on to produce these historical points you said are unwarranted. After all, I am not a man who longs to leave things in the air without some sort of proof wherever possible.
Then again, as I close, I must ask, what do we do with the many works burned by the papacy? After all, they were often wont to do this to those they persecuted. As such, we are left with items as minimal as the Schleitheim Confession, which holds to many of the tenets Baptists would agree with.
Mopping Up the Trail of Blood: Part 1 [Eric Ayala] – The Confessing Baptist
Chad, my mentioning of footnoting my reference material was not meant to impress you. It was to substantiate the fact that I have provided means to check my information and Carroll has not. Carroll made undocumented and unsubstantiated claims about history, and I have not. Further, you do not seem to understand that baseless means without basis, and even though you have accused me of baseless claims, I have clearly provided my basis for my claims. You have done what I feared you would do and have taken a side comment about a confessional understanding of the church and have chosen to beat that drum instead of the actual topic at hand.
Once again, the nature and character of the Church is not the issue that is dealt with in these blog posts. And even though you gave various sources dealing with the necessity of credo-baptism for Baptist church membership that is also not the topic that these blog posts deal with. These blog posts were about J. I am not going to participate in every rabbit trail. Did the Papacy burn books?
Sure, and do you know what that tells us? That they burned books, nothing more. So to answer, yes, it is an invalid counter-point. I will not continue to reply for much longer, as it is seems to be unfruitful.
I would simply suggest that you listen to and read the resources on this very site about Baptist History, and the resources they link to, for I am not alone in this understanding of history. Here is a good Start: Eric, I know that your reference to the footnoting was not meant to impress. My implication was that a simple mentioning of ten references in the light of the manifold more one could gain access to is a very short list of references to try and build up a theory.
Also, as an English major, I am quite certain of the definition of baseless, and indeed stand by the original use in the point I made. Something can be baseless if it is also based upon false presumptions in the light of a larger quantity and quality of truth available. I am sorry if you misunderstood my posting of the credo-baptist practices as my latching onto a side comment. I did not do so. My whole issue in positing those points was that your referencing me to one creed is impossible to set up as authoritative seeing as our brethren have held differences in various doctrinal themes.
I do not believe you are an automaton, dear brother. As a matter of fact, I deeply respect you as a man who has been called to the pastorate. I would never demean your intellect or your intelligence. I would call a spade a spade, and thus seek to correct misinformation where possible. However, I am on a serious time constraint as I have a major paper due on the godless atheist Jean Paul Sartre and how the self-taught man would function in light of the digital society.
This paper is due for the major authors seminar in my M. I am not seeking to brag of my studies, merely to state that at present I do not have the sufficient time to go and gather the resources I know of to show where I believe you err. So, please forgive me my error if I have wronged you or hurt your feelings.
It is never my intentions to do so in anything unto any man. And while you are not alone in your understanding of Baptist history from your position, I would equally point that much more studied and learned men than I also adhere to the same persuasion unto which I hold dear as truth. A decent place to find some references is here: Spurgeon was no unlearned man, and he believed as I do. I can supply many others, just as you surely could. This is not an issue of who agrees with you or me.
It is an issue of historical accuracies. As such, I will surely peruse the article you reference as I have the time, but I would also say the opposition has just as much relevance in the points they make. So, in this instance I would close that I do agree with you that all claims should be backed up with facts. I have done my fair share of reporting, writing historical studies and fact checking. I am not opposed to it. However, I will not fault the man just because he might have tried his best without knowing how to do these things.
- Capital Punishments.
- The Trail of Blood - Wikipedia.
- SWING AND A MISS;
- The Trail of Blood by J.M. Carroll!
- Tunnel Town!
Not all men do. I have had others in the faith ask me help to format their works, check references and to make sure their annotations and footnotes are properly displayed throughout. I wish Carroll would have followed this practice. But, as I stated, much of what he posited had been backed up with the similar references you seek in his work in works of other men. After all, we do not have to give references for what is considered common knowledge.
He was writing a booklet on Baptist history to Baptist people. As such, he could have considered all he provided common knowledge and saw no need for annotations or footnotes. We will never know his reasons. I am sorry you find this unfruitful. I find it very fruitful because the Lord says iron sharpens iron. Your challenges will cause me to search out references where I can to answer you in the points I have given, or to direct counterpoints to your own.
I pray we can continue the discussion in brotherly love, calm demeanors and the desire that the truth be revealed for all, to the glory of Christ Jesus. As a response of your reference to the confession for the issue regarding the church and its members I would again make an appeal to other confessions. The First London Confession, and revision, disagree on some points about the idea of what constitutes the church. The Faith and Practice of Thirty Congregations varies slightly. The Somerset Confession also varies in the same manner.
The Standard Confession, in protest to being labeled anabaptists, also ventures some little bit from the Second London Confession. I can pull out all of the many so-called confessions, and we will find there are two positions our forebears have held to, but that the one over the other was newer introduced, and that through Protestant influences, is undeniable. Seeing as we hold to individual soul liberty, why should I then submit to the Confession of Faith if I deem it is not right in some manner according to the scriptures? They saw fit to amend the first, and then to again revise it.
Yet, we find that the subject of the church and its members has always hinged upon salvation and baptism. So, unless I am missing something in this reference I would agree with the confessions only when they agree with the scriptures.